Comments on: 10.2.8 Installations and Safari

By: Jon H

Jon H — Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:24:22 +0000

"However, you should always repair permissions before AND after installing an OS update in OSX. Not doing both can really screw things up."

This sounds like the old fashioned magical thinking that I used to see from Mac users. Similar to the people who suggested a complete disk wipe and clean install for every OS update.

I've never done this, and never had any problems attributable to munged permissions.

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:34:51 +0000

I don't have any problems moving non-Apple apps but I make sure to keep the Apple apps where the installer puts them. To get some semblance of order, I make aliases of the Apple app, use Terminal to make the app invisible and move the alias.

I use iViagra to keep my optimizations from hanging all night.

By: Joseph Li

Joseph Li — Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:04:08 +0000

My update optimization hung all night.

By: Eric Blair

Eric Blair — Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:32:39 +0000

To those who say my installation may not have been hung, that's entirely possible. I'll cop to the fact that patience is not one of my greatest virtues.

I'll try to fire up my old G3 tonight and run the installer on that, just for kicks.

By: fp

fp — Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:29:44 +0000

I sincerely doubt that your installation was hung. Optimizing takes a long, long time sometimes.

By: Eric Blair

Eric Blair — Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:18:06 +0000

Rob, Apple fixed the installers for a while. Check out Bill Bumgarner's post from last Febuary --- I wanted to include it in my original entry, but I couldn't find the link at the time.

Personally, I think it's fair to be surprised when a regression bug pops up in a product.

Finally, different people work in different ways. You may not care how your Applications folder looks, but I do.

By: Michael Tsai's Weblog

Michael Tsai's Weblog — Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:05:08 +0000

10.2.8 Installer

Eric Blair complains that the 10.2.8 installer can’t find Safari when it’s not in its default location, and is told that he shouldn’t want to move Safari in the first place....

By: KL

KL — Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:54:55 +0000

You know, a lot of people think that their macs are ‘hung’ during optimization- and for most of them this belief is false. Sometimes optimization due to OS update can take over 5 minutes. If you walk away from your computer and come back half and hour later and it is STILL optimizing…well, okay, go ahead and restart. However, you should always repair permissions before AND after installing an OS update in OSX. Not doing both can really screw things up.

By: Rob

Rob — Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:18:24 +0000

I agree that Apple’s installers should be smarter about finding apps, regardless of where a user has moved them. I think this is a fundamental flaw in how Apple is moving to strict paths in general rather than the “old” way of finding files intelligently (by file ID I believe). That said, we all know how the installers work, so acting surprised that 10.2.8 couldn’t find your moved version of Safari is just bellyaching. Personally I have trouble seeing how subfolders within Applications makes anything easier. You can always open the Apps folder and start typing the name of the program you want. Crowdedness is irrelevant. Using this method, Internet/Safari is no easier to find than Safari — in fact, it takes another step. I use LaunchBar, which makes the location of anything irrelevant.

By: 2lmc spool

2lmc spool — Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:37:43 +0000

2003/09/23 16:31

10.2.8 and Applications/ idiocy